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Comment by Timothy T. Wilson on July 18, 2008 at 1:08pm

Lost in Translation...


"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater [works] than these he will do, because I go to My Father." John 14:12 NKJV


Jesus Christ was as much God as you could put in a human body.


The Most High wants to reproduce that same anointing in our lives on a daily basis.


Can you stand that much God?


Good day to you. I pray that you are well and are walking in the fullness of God. This is a momentous day for so many reasons and on so many levels. Notice the timing of God for your life. Notice the evidence of His moving. Notice that the measure of attack on your life has increased, but so has your favor! Notice that the things that had you bound have, inextricably, fallen off of your life without notice or warning. It is as if God went retro. He answered prayers that are years old just recently like this was the first time I prayed them! How crazy is that?


Can I tell you why God is doing what He's doing right now? It's because this is the moment for greater works manifestation. In order to manifest greater works, we have to walk in purity. With purity comes power. Period. Trust me. I know what it's like to assume that your gift will get you over. The grace period is coming to a close. God wants purity out of His vessels. And He deserves it.


Jesus Christ possessed power in the earth with God and man and over devils because He focused Himself in prayer and paid attention to the detail of living a life of purity in order for the Holy Spirit to move freely without hindrance in His ministry. This is the season of deliverances! Not just deliverance from one thing, but multiplied bondages erased in an instant! That starts today.


Many of us know The Father's desire to bless us, build us, talk with us, commune with us and so forth. Knowing these things, however, does not stop many of us from moving outside of God's will in certain areas of our lives. Somehow the clear message of God's desire and His ability to bring it to pass in us gets lost in the translation from spirit to flesh.


Lost in translation. Knowing exactly what God said to do, you do the opposite. Lost in translation. Fighting the perfect will of God for that which has proven to be mediocre at best. Lost in translation. The self-determining will to do exactly what comes into your mind even as you know that destruction is on the other side of the choice you're making. Lost in translation. Making an easy decision hard. Lost in translation. Believing God for a specific promise, see the promise next to the counterfeit, and still choose the counterfeit. Lost in translation. Choosing bondage over freedom when God has shown you the open door.


We all have been lost in translation before. I know I have, probably more than most. But the power of The Most High is seen in His utmost concern for us even in the face of our self-destructive ways. Even as many of us falter in the place of limited works, God still desires to conform us to the image of His Son, the incorruptible seed, Jesus Christ.


Take heart if you're like me: a former lifetime limited works man. I have made more wrong choices with the right information than I would ever care to memorialize. But God, who is rich in mercy, saw fit to stay committed to me and see the building project that is John Gray through to the end. Thank you Father.


Living a limited life, you lose the will of God in the translation of day to day activity. The limited life produces limited works. The limitless life produces the greater works harvest. May today, this moment in fact, become the beginning of the move towards greater works manifestation. Disallow the enemy room in your mind to convince that God's plan or place for you is now null and void. Your destiny is not over. That's why you're still alive.


Bless you mightily in God. Translate your broken past into present day deliverance. That's a greater work. Translate your mistakes into mission to free others. That's greater works. Translate your paltry prayer life into one of precision and power that produces consistent results in the earth. That's greater works. Live holy. That's greater works. Change the frequency on your communication dial. You are elevated in Christ. Any language, tongue, word, "prophecy", plan or position outside the will of the Father should be sent back to hell with a post-it note attached that says one thing: Lost in Translation.


I Am Going.

Keep Going...

Timothy T. Wilson

Comment by Timothy T. Wilson on July 6, 2008 at 1:05pm

The end of days...


"But you, go [your way] till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days." Daniel 12:13 NKJV


I've been crying for a while today. It's just been one of those days. Still. Right now. The tears come. Out of the blue, from nowhere, He came. The King embraced me this morning in a breeze. I sat and waited and He showed up. I've been dying for some time now. Feeding off of old anointing in order to keep up the appearance of solvency when, in fact, I was spiritually bankrupt. So much to do. So many people need the Lord. I try. I promise you, I try, to show as many as I can The Way. But in showing everyone else the way, it seemed that I became lost.


Cynical, questioning, battling to keep depression from setting in, all the while bleeding internally from places that had been there since childhood, I found myself becoming a character. "Now Playing: featuring an all-star cast of internal personalities ranging from the truly holy to the utterly profane. Coming to a city near you!"


I couldn't do it anymore. Forgive me as the tears come. This is the emerging of a man in need of a Savior. Jesus Help ME today! Oh how I need you for myself.


Hear my prayer.


Have you ever wanted to live holy and couldn't? Have you ever desired to do right by God only to see your best-laid plans fall through the cracks of your own brokenness? Have you ever attempted to introduce a flesh-rooted life to the beauty of intimacy only to contaminate the very things and people you desire to love? Help me God. This me is not my best me. The 'me' that men see is not the me I see when I have gone home.

The battle is to believe God's words concerning the God-made 'me' even though the devil shows me every single thing that I am currently manifesting to the contrary. Somehow, in the truth of my situation and the evidence that seems insurmountable, I must believe the word of the Lord that the devil is a liar concerning me. That would mean that what I do, somehow, praise God, is not who I am. In this lies the great mystery of being made the righteousness of God.


I told one of my friends last night that I was tired. Not just sleepy. It wasn't that. I was tired. I'm 36 years old and I'm tired. I'm tired of living out of suitcases. I'm ready to put down roots. I'm ready to stay long enough to see measurable growth in the things that I am a part of helping to cultivate. I am tired of always saying goodbye. I'm tired of not being sure how to respond to people in my life because I don't know how long they're going to stay. Better yet, I'm not sure how long I'll be around. The transient life can only work for so long. I was tired of running-from me. You see, today, for whatever reason, is a day I will never forget. It is the day that I realized that there will be an end of days for me.


This life doesn't last forever. The fantasy of forever doesn't even fit into the contemporary framework of my present existence. Who would want this life forever? Not me. I want to be more. I want to fly. I want to run without pain. My knee won't let me. But, oh, one day! One day, I will have a body incorruptible and indestructible. And I will leave the pains of accumulated nice tries behind me. I look forward to the end of days. And it approaches quickly.


As it is, it is time to go my way. The scripture up top shares the heart of God for all of us. The Father told Daniel to 'go your way'. Each one of us has a specific, singular and set apart calling that is designed to perfectly complete the picture and placement of the Kingdom of God in the earth. I don't want anyone else's stuff. Not anymore. I just want to be the best me that I am called to be. I'm so far from perfect. And you know what? It's okay. It really is. My failures make me. My faults only serve to show the true power and glory of God that He could somehow squeeze value out of a life that has never been fully submitted to His entire will. God help me.


Pray for me. I've been running from the necessary inoculation shot that accompanies kingdom elevation. It's an all-in-one shot. One shot with the healing for five diseases- pride, the love of money, infidelity, fear and loneliness. I've had to say goodbye to people that I just knew were supposed to stay forever. Everyone will not go with you. Cry. Then move on. I've had to face my mistakes-especially in relationship. I've botched that thing up pretty good. But to face those places where I've failed has made me a stronger man.


Through this season, I have learned that God does keep count. He's tallying up what we do for Him in order to properly mete out our inheritance in the Age to come. One day, I will leave this place. When I awake, I will see Jesus Christ for myself. And I will lay down my accumulated crowns at His feet and He will take my earthly crowns and exchange them for a Heavenly one. And with that Crown comes land, a mansion not made with human hands, endless joy, and rest for my currently weary heart. Amen. Come Lord Jesus.


To the weary of heart and those hurting immeasurably to the point that you can't articulate it, know that this word is for you. The Lord sees. The Lord hears. The Lord has not forgotten. He cannot help but to see where you are and has sent His word to rescue you and encourage you today. All of your pain, all of it, has been recorded and God Himself is going to present you with your inheritance for all that you've endured. Am I talking to you? I believe so. The tears keep coming. Heal me Lord. Today. Right now. Heal all those reading this at this very moment. Heal our land and our broken hearts. Catch the tears. Right now. Fill us Holy Spirit. New life. New Breath. New power.


Give us enough strength to walk through this life and fulfill our calling to the honor of your glory. Protect our families and loved ones far and near. Keep speaking to us Lord. Even in this season where so many are carnal, pluck our hearts and keep us longing for you. Jesus Christ, help us to put down our vices, from drunkenness and fermented drink to unholy talk and ungodly relationships and powerless church services. Deliver those of us who call on you today. Right now. Lord, hear my prayer.


As I approach my end of days, may it be that my legacy is one of holiness and power and unashamed Christ confession. May I, with my last breath, declare the word of The Lord to a truly dying and degenerate world that hates the things of God. May your heart turn towards the things that are truly essential and away from silly things that take up precious time.


Take heart. The pain won't last always. Healing shall come. The end of turmoil is near. The end of contention and strife is near. The end of days approaches for all whom God loves. For we shall leave the place called days, that pre-set component and marker of time, and fly towards that which is eternal and beautiful. For that is where the fullness of God is.


Bless you today. Stay encouraged. And know that your reward is sure! Keep fighting, keep serving, keep praying and keep struggling.


Your inheritance is on the other side of this Day.


Keep, well, you know already but I'll say it anyway-


Keep going.

Timothy T. Wilson

Comment by Timothy T. Wilson on June 25, 2008 at 11:36am

Nevertheless...


"He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will." Matthew 26:39 NKJV


The first key to manifested deliverance from a stronghold is the dismantling of illusions.


God's power has no end.


The moment that you grab this revelation is the moment you begin to walk in the unstoppable.


God bless you this day.


You are about to enter what will be known for the rest of your life as the greatest three-month span of public victories over private devils that your life had ever seen. It begins the moment this word is received by you. The purpose of the freedom you are about to experience is to engage you in next level discussions in the spirit in order that The Father may prepare you for greater Kingdom works and for more effective use in the earth.


It's the fourth quarter. It's time for Holy Ghost heroics. The enemy is advancing down the field of battle with seemingly little fight from the defense. Plagues, unprecedented droughts, famines, wars, rumors of wars and continuous scandals within the Body of Christ continue to give the illusion of imminent defeat.


It is only an illusion.


Make no mistake. The devil has pulled out all the stops and we as a body of believers are being hit from every side. But we are still here. You are still here. You're not dead. And you're not going to die. Not here. Not now. Not ever. Jesus said that those who live and believe in Him shall never die. I believe this. I will live forever with Him. That is my promise. The stronghold of the enemy is constructed to cause you to believe that the promises of God are words without backing, like a guarantee from a company without the means to make good on the promise.


Not so. Our God can back up every word He's ever spoken. In fact, The Father did back His word up in the earth with a Word File in Heaven. His name is Jesus Christ. Hallelujah. There is an attack on the Name Jesus Christ throughout the earth. Every other name is tolerable, it would seem, except for His. We must say His Name over and over in this cloudy, demonic atmosphere in order to declare purity and power in the midst of atmospheric warfare. Say it. Jesus Christ. Say it again. Jesus Christ.


Power just left your mouth. Power is now in the room with you. Power is available now to dismantle strongholds. Use your tools.


Strongholds are lies that have the illusion of invincibility. "I will never get free from this thing." "I guess this is my thorn in the flesh." "Maybe I missed my blessing so I'll just stay with him even though he's not what I prayed for." "Nobody's perfect." "We had church but I'm still not free." "Maybe I'm called to suffer so someone else can get free." "If I stay in this relationship, maybe they will change." "There's nobody out there for me." "God forgot about me." "I'm being punished for something I did wrong." Whatever your ungodly belief is, it was set up by the devil to discredit God in your mind. If the enemy can get your mind, your spirit will follow.


If you believe that your life is one long punishment, or if you feel like God has forgotten about you, you will begin to lead yourself down the path that looks best to you. This is exactly what the enemy wants. He wants you to rely on your own will. He wants you to rely on your own thoughts and imagination. The word of God says that there is a way that seems right to man, but in the end it leads to death. That 'way' is the place of the stronghold. Strongholds take root in your mind in order to segue into your spirit by virtue of your repetitious words. That's why you must be careful whom you're talking to in this season. Some people will talk you right back into bondage that you've been freed from. I feel the Holy Ghost.


Watch who you share your heart and struggles with. Everyone can't handle your truth. Not yet. Allow God to guide you to the people that can walk with you from the discovery of a stronghold to the dismantling and destruction of that thing. The weapons of your warfare are not carnal! Use the word of God to declare the truth in the face of a stronghold. Your words can either build up, or destroy, a stronghold. A stronghold is a lie from the enemy fortified by the words of your mouth. Guard what you say. You're building something.


Jesus understood the power of words to produce physical and spiritual reality. In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus is seen battling with the birthing of a stronghold. He apparently gets a prophetic glimpse of what lies ahead: a fixed jury trial, unspeakable torture, desertion, betrayal, flogging, mocking, Fatherly abandonment and a cursed crucifixion. Those images in His mind should have been enough to make Jesus get up and run for His life. I know I would have.


But here is the difference between Jesus Christ and every other name. Hallelujah. He had a choice to make in His mind based on the truth, not of what He saw prophetically, but who He was eternally. The temporary nature of the flesh versus the eternal nature of the spirit. The mind sees these ghastly images and the first thought is self-preservation. "Father let this cup pass." But then something miraculous takes place between that sentence and the next. Jesus grabs hold to the Word of The Father concerning Him and drops the ultimate bomb on what could have been an insurmountable mental stronghold. He throws out a 'nevertherless'.


That one word is the transition in the entire redemption story. Had Jesus not said that, there would never be a reason to go to church, say a prayer, live holy or love your neighbor. That budding stronghold, those images in His mind, could have taken root with the 'right' words. But instead of believing the lie of the enemy that what He was facing was permanent and insurmountable, He credited His Father, based on a lifetime of experiences with Him, with the ability to know what's best for Him, even if He couldn't see it for Himself.


My God.


Nevertheless. That is the moment when Jesus laid His will down for the will of The Father. Nevertheless. That is the place where you and I cast down imaginations and every high thing. Nevertheless. This is the place where you see devils for who and what they truly are. Nevertheless. This is the place where God gets ultimate glory. Nevertheless! No matter what it looks like, feels like, no matter what you're going through, before you give in to give up, throw out a NEVERTHELESS!


Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! You are worthy God to receive glory and honor and power and all dominion and the earth and all of Heaven belongs to You!


Jesus' "nevertheless" was pass interference to the devil. The enemy was attempting to pass off his lies as truth in order for it to become reality in the earth. The devil needs your participation to fulfill his plan. Don't give him the satisfaction! Run pass interference! When Jesus said, "Let this cup pass", we were in trouble. He had to drink that cup so that we could be free. But the moment of nevertheless ran irrevocable interference to the enemy's plan for all time.


The 'pass interference' is passing on your will for the sake of The Father's. Pass interference declares that living in the perfect will of God is the only way to exist. Go ahead and exchange your will for The Father's today. Don't walk away from your cup. Drink it all. Your God will see you through. Pass this word on to someone else. Run pass interference on the devil's plan for someone else today. May this word free you.


Keep passing your will off for the sake of The Father's.


And keep going.

Timothy T. Wilson

Comment by Timothy T. Wilson on June 17, 2008 at 9:33pm

Many blessings to you to Minister...

Comment by Queneesha Smith-Meyers on June 17, 2008 at 10:11am

Welcome Minister Johnson. The Lord is great and worthy to be praised!!!! Q

Comment by Briggette Carmichael-Johnson on June 17, 2008 at 2:57am

Min. Briggette Johnson
Greater Deliverance Fellowship Ministries, Charlotte,NC
Pastor: Bishop-Elect Dr. Herbert Carmichael Jr.

Praise the Lord Everybody!!!

Comment by Queneesha Smith-Meyers on June 16, 2008 at 11:48pm

Thanks for that Timothy. Many blessings to you. Q

Comment by Timothy T. Wilson on June 16, 2008 at 11:31pm

Hosea's Heart...

"1 Then the Lord said to me, "Go again, love a woman who is loved by a lover* and is committing adultery, just like the love of the Lord for the children of Israel, who look to other gods and love the raisin cakes of the pagans." 2 So I bought her for myself for fifteen shekels of silver, and one and one-half homers of barley." Hosea 3:1&2 NKJV


Good morning.


I want to talk about marriage.


I talk about marriage a lot.


I like to observe married couples.


I watch married people when I'm around them. I want to see if their love for one another is real or is it just a show for the people. Because I don't spend that much intimate time with people who are not Christians, I have only been mostly able to observe Christian married couples. At least they say they are Christians. I can't say for sure on all fronts that I know each person's particular walk or commitment as it pertains to Jesus. All one can do is check the fruit and check the root. Good roots produce good fruit.


Faithfulness.


There was a kid who once lived inside this body who was so sure that no one would like him for who he truly was that he would hide himself deep inside, wrapped about in boisterous personality and out- front spiritual gifts. Utilizing his gifts to create a smoke and mirror effect, he was able to keep people looking at the illusion of a committed and submitted life all the while living in the middle. No man who will ever be a real husband can exist in the middle. It's all or nothing homey. That Tim that I once knew is not a guy I can hang out with now. He's funny, but he will wreck a marriage. All he ever knew how to do was play. Players play. Those days are over. Real men who walk in love will risk rejection to go after the promise. That John never took chances. He only went for the sure thing. Casual relationships are easy. They're the new sure thing. Very few people want to commit on that next level. But that is where God makes men.


I mourn the loss of my friend unfaithful tim because he's all I've ever known. But it is time to trust God to bring a new crop of internal fruit that lines up with His word. To every man that is reading this today or in the days to come, this is for you: it's time to grow up. Get your life in order. Make no excuses and offer no apologies. God needs committed men in the earth that He can trust with great resources and influence. Is that you?


I have observed that true commitment has nothing to do with the object of your commitment being in your face. The commitment only counts when they're not around. To stay in a thing when you could leave, even with cause, because you know God told you to stay is the essence of God-love. I don't see too many marriages like that these days. I don't see too many friendships like that either. That's why Hosea is my hero.


Hosea.


I've always had trouble with this Book of the Bible. I don't like its action points, it's implication for my life or how it makes me feel. Knowing that God doesn't force any of us to do anything, I began to dig deep to see what I could make of this man who married a whore. The Bible says God told him to. Okay. God tells us to do stuff all the time that we don't do. Are we dead yet? No. God wouldn't have killed Hosea for disobedience. Hosea would have still been alive had he not married Gomer. It wasn't a life or death situation. Or was it? I'm not really sure. This thing just didn't make any sense to me. Why did Hosea marry Gomer?


I personally don't believe he married her simply out of obedience to God. I believe he loved her. It's the only thing that makes sense. If not, then, next to Jesus Himself, this guy should have the biggest book in the Bible! Who else do you know that deserves accolades like Hosea? If he married a whore simply out of obedience? That's worthy of triple honor. Do I think Hosea married her just because God said so? No. I believe, like God does with all of us, He watches our lives to see what type of character is developed when we are in certain situations and crafts His plan in concert with those choices. That's how you can make mistakes in this life and still end up where you were supposed to be in the first place. That's the love of God. He always has a backup plan for us. Not one of us has followed all the directions, so whether you realize it or not, you're operating in the grace of the backup plan anointing. I feel the Holy Ghost.


Hosea is a real man. He married the girl in the town that everybody slept with. The people in the town probably already didn't like him because he was a prophet of God. But now they really get a chance to laugh at him when he's walking down the street because they all slept with his girl. I can't imagine how that felt. People snickering as you walk by. Men, slowly nodding their heads in your direction while throwing knowing glances at your wife while she keeps her head down because she doesn't want the stench and flesh spark of memory to ignite. But you, Hosea, the prophet, willingly walk with you head up because you know that despite her past, God has made her worthy of a great future. My God.


Somebody give God some praise right now. If you're crying right now, it's because God has sent this word to you today to release you from the shame of who you thought you'd always be. It's over. Let those flesh eaters have their memories. They don't have you. God's promise is in front of you, not behind you. Walk with your head up.


All Gomer needed was a Hosea with enough guts to love her through her whoredom. She wasn't born a whore. She was made one. Somebody in Gomer's life dropped the ball. Her dad wasn't around. Maybe her mom died. She grew up on the streets. Tricking was all she knew. But God cuts covenants with tricks all the time. We were all unfaithful! We've all failed Him! We've all turned our back on God! Yet He still loves us enough to come and get us and bring us back home! Tell God thank you right now! Now!


The real power of this story for me is found in Hosea's response to God to go and buy his wife back from a lover. Think about that if it were you. It's my wife. But I must buy her back? She didn't sell herself. Someone sold her. She was sold by a pimp to pay off a debt.


Gomer was married with a pimp on the side.


That pimp was waiting for Hosea to slip so he could get back in. That's how the enemy is. He will wait for your covering to leave, even for one second, in order to reintroduce you to what you used to be. Gomer got married but didn't have a covenant heart. She didn't know what that was. She needed to be freed from her base nature. Only God can make you ready and trustworthy and fashioned for covenant- keeping love. God change our hearts today.


By this time Hosea had kids with Gomer. How did those kids feel? "You know your mom's a whore, right?" "You know I did it to your mom?" "Who's your daddy?" These kids went through hell. They had nothing to do with the choices yet they are thrown in the middle. Our hopes and dreams are the kids in this story. The enemy whispers that our hopes are illegitimate because of our past. The devil tricks you into believing that because you failed in the past, your dreams can't come true in the future. It's a lie. God's love covers a multitude of sins. Get out of the past and get on with the future! Beauty is waiting for you there.


Finally Hosea walks up to the house, with his kids behind him, and knocks on the door. A half naked man that looks way better than Hosea and has a better body than Hosea comes to the door. Hosea sees his naked wife sprawled on the bed in the distance. Instead of stabbing the dude through the neck like I would have done, he does the craziest thing I've ever heard of. He buys his wife back. "Excuse me, how much will it cost for you to release the love of my life from debt obligation? How much will it take for you to let her go? We have kids that need their mother. I need my wife. Your throwaway whore is the love of my life and I want her back. I will pay whatever you ask. Just give me my wife."


I can't keep typing. It's too much!


The man looks Hosea up and down with a disgusted look, quotes the price while rubbing his stomach, and looks back at the prize in the middle. He thinks Hosea is a fool for asking to buy his wife back, but is convinced he's a fool when he actually takes the money out and prepares to pay. Before the man can even get the question out of his mouth, Hosea simply says, "She's worth it to me". With that, the man goes in and shakes Gomer and tells her to get up and get her clothes on. He tells her to get out. Her kids are playing in the dirt outside the house, unaware of the transaction that just took place. In a little while, mama's coming home. In just a few moments, wife will be back in place and all the pain and heartache and anger will subside. It's all worth it.


That's love.


If you ever want to know the value of a thing, ask the owner what its worth is to them. God paid for us. He bought us back from the enemy. We were nasty, unfaithful, and didn't want to go home. We were naked in the bed with another and He came and got us and paid for us to come home while we were still groggy from a life of sin and still smelling like our former lovers. He took us and washed us and restored us. His love for us is so great. How can we not honor Him?


Hosea grabbed his wife and kids and lived happily ever after. I don't know if that's the case, but I know that there is a love that transcends understanding. I know that I wasn't Hosea. I was Gomer. I've been the unfaithful one, in the spirit and the natural at different times in my life. You too. But God paid in Blood for our release.


The least we can do is not cheat on Him.


Are you cheating?


Keep being Faithful.

Timothy T. Wilson

Comment by Queneesha Smith-Meyers on June 16, 2008 at 1:37pm

It is a hot topic because people make it out to be with assumptions. I don't think it is fair for anyone to assume we as women who are called are not listening to God. It really irks me to hear people say that or to tell me what God has or hasn't told me. I know the Lord's voice, I heard it when I was almost suicidal and lost my will to live. I know what the Lord has called me to do. Maybe He didn't call YOU but HE called ME. I have searched the scriptures myself, I have prayed, fasted, and lastly I heard from the Lord. If you think I am wrong then so be it. God has the final say, PERIOD.

Paul referred to sisters as CO-laborers of the Gospel, equals. And in the O.T. Judges 4:4 the Lord made a woman ruler over Israel. "And DEBORAH, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, SHE judged Israel at that time." So doesn't it make since that if He would have a women be ruler over His people, the apple of His eye, a whole nation, that He wouldn't have a problem with one being a preacher, a minister or in any leadership position for that matter over a few folks in comparison?

I believe that the Bible allows for a woman to hold and serve in the role, function, and title of a minister, she needs to have a male COVERING. That covering can be her husband or other appropriate spiritual authority, either a (competent) male pastor or bishop or apostle, etc.

So, as that MALE COVERING ALLOWS that woman to go forth in teaching, preaching, pastorship, etc., neither that man nor that woman is out of order in the Lord because we agree that the Lord has given spiritual authority to the man/male pastor/bishop, etc. and the Lord is not going to override or contradict His biblical instruction.

Further, Timothy goes on to say "On the other hand, her childbearing brought about salvation, reversing Eve." (verse in 1 Timothy 2 from The Message). The birth, death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ FULFILLED and the voids of the Old Testament covenant, bringing the husband and wife to walk, work, and live BESIDE each other.... Yes, we are the "weaker" vessel, but only in BODY FORMATION (we don't have as much muscle as men), but the Lord has also anointed women to do a great work. 1 Peter 3:7 says: "The same goes for you husbands: Be good husbands to your wives. Honor them, delight in them. As women they lack some of your advantages. But in the new life of God's grace, you're equals. Treat your wives, then, as equals so your prayers don't run aground."

One biblical example of this "equality in ministry" is Aquilla and Pricilla. Here are SIX references about them. You don't see them mentioned separately from one another. Acts 18:2; Acts 18:18; Acts 18:26; Romans 16:3; 1 Corinthians 16:19; and 2 Timothy 4:19.

This is old and tired and I just want to talk about the goodness of Jesus and not have to defend the calling He has placed on my life so I won't. Lastly God did not say women should not be preachers. It is not stated ANYWHERE in the bible. Blessings to you all because I will no longer be responding to this. Q

Comment by Tina Jamison-Dumas on June 16, 2008 at 1:57am

I know that this is a hot topic regarding women as preachers, but I ask any woman who believes that her calling is that of a preacher, prophet, evangelist, or apostle to really look at the scriptures to see if they are in line with the Word of God. This is so important to your own soul as well as those that sit up under your ministry. When Jesus, our Lord and Saviour, walked the earth he did not call one woman to walk after him as a disciple, which means learner, or apostle. When Judas had to be replaced, the other disciples did not even consider a woman. I am a woman and I feel like I can do just as good a job preaching the Word as a man, but I know my place as a Holy woman. God created Adam first then Eve. God gave Adam his name, but it was Adam who gave the woman her name after God punished them and threw them out of the Garden of Eden. It was the woman who transgressed and brought sin into the world, not the man. For this cause we have been cursed to have a man as our head all the days of our life whether you are married or not. I am sorry that this does not feel good to the flesh, but God has an order and he does not change just because the society that we live in allows any and everything to be so. I think 1Corinthians 11:3 sums up that order well: the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Yes, I know that man does not always mean male-faced, sometimes it means mankind (humans), but this clearly means male-faced. If so, how can a woman preach the Word of God to a man if the man is her head? Yes, this scriptures speaks mainly to married people, but it gives us God's order before addressing the issue of women's heads being covered. The bible speaks on women teaching women and children (girls and boys who fall within the age range of children) so then it is okay for a woman to teach bible classes as long as it does not include men. According to the bible, a man is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. From Genesis to Revelations God did not call a woman to preach his Word. He used many women as an oracle to speak through, but never did he send a woman forth in that mannerism. So again, if you have a calling on your life and you are a woman, pray and ask God to show you how to do his will without stepping out of your place as a woman. Societies change constantly, but God does not conform to the changes that this world goes through.

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